By Greg Prato
Itās hard to believe thatās itās been 14 long years since Kingās X issued an all-new studio album (the last being 2008ās XV). But thankfully, that all changed on September 2, 2022, when the groupās 13th album overall, Three Sides Of One, was released.
Comprising singer and bassist Doug Pinnick, singer and guitarist Ty Tabor, and singer and drummer Jerry Gaskill, Kingās X has built a large and loyal following over the years on the strength of such classic albums as Gretchen Goes To Nebraska (1989), Faith Hope Love (1990), and Dogman (1994), and such MTV and radio hits as āOver My Head,ā āItās Love,ā and āBlack Flag.ā And since their inception, the trio has incorporated a variety of styles into their own sound āĀ metal, funk, prog, psychedelic, ballads, etc.
And you could certainly say that Iām a diehard fan of the bandā¦after all, it was yours truly that worked with the band on their 2019 biography, Kingās X: The Oral History! So it was a pleasure to chat with Pinnick two weeks before Three Sides of One was set to dropĀ ā discussing the new album, his 2021 solo album Joy Bomb, and the future of Kingās X.
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Why so long between albums?
Nobody wanted to make a record but me. It just didnāt feel like we had anything to offer. So, finally after a little bit of persuasionĀ ā about fourteen years, I guess ā we felt like we had something to offer. Plain and simple. I went and did all these side projects. Really, just one day we were playing demos for each other, and Jerry said, āOh, I feel encouraged. Maybe we can make a record.ā Real innocent.
How was it working on Three Sides Of One compared to previous Kingās X albums?
It was the most fun weāve ever hadĀ ā because after being in a band for 42 years, and still being together, we understand each other in a better way. It was just a pleasure to be amongst old friends making music again. And the results seem to be palatable. We were really excited about what we were doing, so we thought, āWow. Thereās some excitementĀ ā after all these years.ā
Material-wise or sonically, is it comparable to any earlier Kingās X albums? Ā
No. I think this album is just basically take all the other albums and put them in a pot and stir it.
Which tracks were the hardest to get right, and which were the easiest?Ā
Actually, they all came easy. The uncanny thing of playing with Kingās X is it doesnāt take but a second to lay a track down. Building up the tracks is a lot of fun, and sometimes things come fast, sometimes things come slow. But weāre not aware of time when weāre making a record. Itās sort of like you float along, and wherever the butterfly takes youā¦weāre chasing butterfliesĀ ā wherever it takes us, thatās what will happen!
Was the entire album recorded in a studio or were files exchanged online?
I would say 99.9% was done in the studio. All done analogĀ ā except for Pro Tools. It went down analog, and then it went through analog stuff to be mastered. So, we wanted to keep it as true to that analog sound that we were used to back in the ā70s and ā80s. And we thought about āalbumā more than CDs or streaming. So, we went for the approach of making a real record.
Which studio was 3 Sides Of One recorded in?Ā
It was Black Sound Studio. Michael Parnin owns it and he lives there. I lived there for a little while when I first moved to LA about 15 years ago. Heās just a great producerĀ ā he produced my Strum Sum Up and Hendrix tribute record (Tribute To Jimi: Often Imitated But Never Duplicated). And heās worked with probably everybody you can think of. You name it, heās probably engineered them. Heās a veteran when it comes to that. And like a fly on the wall, heās learned everything there is to know from watching other people. I think he did an excellent job on our album when it comes to the sonics and the producing of it.
How is Ty doing health-wise (it was recently announced that the guitarist has been diagnosed with an undisclosed illness), and will Kingās X be able to tour in support of the album?
As soon as his doctor says āOK,ā weāre on the go. Until then, we have to just pick shows to do that Ty can go do, without it wearing him out or it compromises his immune system.
How were the shows that Kingās X recently played? It was two-and-a-half years since your last performance. Ā
We were horrified until we went on stage to play. And then after we got through the first show in New York, we thought, āOKā¦we might be able to do this.ā By the time we got to the third showĀ ā with Stone Temple PilotsĀ ā we were having a good time. So, it just took a minute. You donāt walk away from the stage for two-and-a-half years and just think youāre going to pick up right where you left off. It was good for us. Because we never stopped playingĀ ā so we never experienced this.
Are there any songs that youād like to see reintroduced to the set that havenāt been played in a while?Ā
NoĀ ā what weāre doing now is we want to do the whole new record. Weāll probably do everything but āSwipe Up.ā Thereās going to be some major rehearsing to do that one. Thatās one of those songs that youāve got to practice eight hours a day for two weeksĀ ā like we did for āWe Were Born To Be Loved,ā to get that.
Now that itās been a few years since the book Kingās X: The Oral History came out, what are your thoughts on it now and did you learn things that you didnāt know before? Ā
Yeah, I learned a whole lot of things. Itās like being married and having a marriage counselor after 40 years, and all of a sudden you find out that they hated peanut butterĀ ā and you were putting it on their sandwich all the time, but they didnāt want to tell you because they didnāt want to hurt your feelings! I learned a lot of things. Nothing specific that Iād like to go into, but it just helped me see my side, my share, and the brotherhood of Kingās X and how they feel about meĀ ā in positive and negative ways. It was really good. I canāt wait until the next oneĀ ā because weāre all older and wiser, and see the world differently. There should be a āpart IIā coming soon, hopefully!
Last year, you issued your latest solo album, Joy Bomb.Ā Ā
My solo albums are my babies. Theyāre the songs that nobody else would take. [Laughs] Or Iām trying to whip them up to try to make them as good as Kingās X or my side projects. You canāt do that if youāre doing it all yourself, but my solo records, theyāre like my demos, basically. I approach them all the same way. I try to make them the best I can. So, Joy Bomb was out there, people seemed to like it, and Iām moving on. Itās sort of like I put a record out, people buy it, and then next month thereās something else going on. I love when people buy all my stuff and have it in their collectionĀ ā which means a lot to me.
Future plans or projects? Ā
New KXM (a band that also includes Dokkenās George Lynch and Kornās Ray Luzier), hopefully. Weāre in the beginning conversationsĀ ā text messagesĀ ā of doing the fourth one. And have you ever heard of a guy named Gary Myrick? Iām doing a project with him and a guy named Mike Hansen. Gary had a band called Gary Myrick & the Figures. If you remember an old ā80s song called āShe Talks in StereoāĀ ā that was his big hit. Anyway, weāre doing a little projectĀ ā an EP just for the fun of it. Who knowsĀ ā Iāll be doing all kinds of stuff. Oh, my Naked record is coming out on vinyl. It never came out on vinylĀ ā itās done and weāre just waiting for the printing.
Do you think Kingās X will issue another studio album after this one? Ā
Yeah. If we can do this, we can do another one. Thereās never been a conversation about to stop. We even said if we had to stop touring, weād still make records.